By Vexen Crabtree 1999 Aug | Read / Write Comments
This page is a going to be a step by step resources guide for those agnostics of Christianity, or for the disbelievers of Christianity, to prove that they are correct in their stance. The links on this page are very in depth - in general this page is to show other people, or to aid an in depth study into the early history of Christianity.
The point of this page is to allow research of the facts that can be used to refute Christianity in particular, and monotheism in general, by providing links to other sites.
"Satanism is not just an atheistic stance but a anti-theistic stance. We prefer destruction of mystically-oriented religions through active opposition rather than simple non-participation.""Secret life of a Satanist" by Blanche Barton p217
On the offensive
This order should be observed. Though you might find it better not to, if in doubt, do it by the numbers. The rest of the page points to resources that you should use in your arguments. If your opponent is intelligent, and the emails are long, then you should progress through each phase in about two weeks. (Stupid opponents will cease being logical and resort to insulting, avoid questions, etc). Except for "Cleaning Up", because if you do it right you can win the war and make a friend for years at the same time.
Doublethinkers
If your opponent is a fundamentalist who has already been pressurized by freethinkers then the chances are you can defeat them on all the points above, and they still wont change their position. Some very clever people are just as capable of doublethink that makes them like this. This is called "being fucked in the head". If you do thing with care, with a humane tone of voice and polite verse then you can make them concede a little, but the war against fundamentalists is best not done with logical arguments. I don't know what will work. Very Complex, hard psychology or plain death may well be the only ways to end the fundamentalists doublethinking brainlock.
There is information on Moses' flood - which is likely to be the flood that created the huge dead sea from the Mediterranean which also features in other cultures myths. I haven't found good unbiased documentation on this yet.
See my text on The Old Testament.
The strong point of dissing Moses is that it attacks Christianity and Judaism, plus all the offshoots.
7 Day Creation
What a silly idea that is! It doesn't even serve particularly well as a metaphor for anything: The 7 Day Creation.
Adam and Eve, Noah and Wife
Incest and genetic impossibility. Adam, Eve, Noah and Breeding.
Jesus was real?
This page explains using large amounts of historical data the origins of some of the most important Christian elements of the New Testament. The Historical Basis of the Jesus legend (select "open from current location" to view the file).
Jesus almost definitely did not exist in any way that resembles the information we have. The page on Paul describes the likely proceedings that produced the mythical character, Jesus.
The virgin birth
The Virgin Birth, The Christmas story - The three wise men, the virgin birth, the prophecy of the virgin birth, the Roman Census forcing Mary to go to Bethlehem, King Herod's killing of all babies. Comments on how we know these didn't happen.
Jesus was the Messiah
Actually, he probably wasn't. See my text on Paul and The prophecy of the Messiah.
Paul, Mithraism, Myths - where did Christianity come from? When did it split from Judaism?
We are all equal under God
No we're not.
The Bible is infallible
If someone says this then they're probably a fundamentalists. In which case you'd better start practicing that old lesser Magic, because logic isn't going to touch them. Fundies are severely stupid, or blind to logic, or both. 'God breathed' scripture.
Christian Morals - showing that very statement to be an oxymoron.
The Truth
We can show how the Christian mythology is fake, bastardized and exaggerated versions of previous fables, and this alone should be enough to convince us that the Church's of the world are mostly founded on misinformation. In the name of clarity, purity and common sense we should end the lies.
Religions uphold morals
The UK is atheist - the few religious people generally keep their heads down. The UK, and other European countries, Russia, China make up a large portion of the population of the Earth. China alone makes 13%. All these countries are atheist, for the most part. Atheists are have no lack of morals.
China
China, yell the theists, is immoral because they are all atheist. If that argument holds up, then surely we can say that all Christians are immoral because of what they did during the Dark Ages? The inquisitions, crusades, witch hunts, etc! China is different, but not more immoral than the West. Through history, China has had a cleaner record up until Communism in Health, Human Rights, Peace, Education, Science, Medical Knowledge and Social systems. The Christian Europe was 400 years behind China in all these things.
Theology
People say that The Church is worth keeping and that what is supposed to be the 'body of Christ', the Catholic Church, is still infallible and that all the history above is coincidental and irrelevant. When approached with this you must be prepared to face the theists on theological terms and show him how silly the Bible's teachings are.
Souls: Theory and Scepticism: Even if souls were real, they wouldn't resemble anything similar to that required of most monotheistic religions.
Refuting Monotheism - This page describes the main failures of all theistic religions. There are links on the page to some more detailed essays for some of the subjects that come up. - about Homocentricity, The myth of infallibility and the problems associated with implementing an authoritive text through human beings. It also covers the problems of Human communication and accuracy of religious institutions.
The essay on Homocentricity considers the problems with basing a religion solely around the Human Race, or making out that the Human Race is anything more than animal in nature.
Links:
Barton, Blanche
"The Secret Life of a Satanist". 1990. Published in UK 1992, by Mondo, Titan Books, London, UK by arrangement with Feral Press.